From Wednesday's Globe and Mail
Latest comment posted at 8:37 PM EDT 06/06/07
RCMP using witness protection law to avoid wrongful death lawsuit, Commons
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Carrel from Salmo, Canada writes: So much for
the argument that judges are too lenient, and that police need more powers!
the gas-station boycott on fridays! from Canada writes: try
him for the new crime. if you have to blow his new identity to do it, do it.
they can always give him yet another identity should it be necessary
afterwards. but really, if they make a deal, get witness protection, and
then violate their end of the deal by breaking laws again, phuck em! let em
broughton from Edmonton, Canada writes: The RCMP
simply can not be trusted. While the public is naturally supportive of law
enforcement efforts, there is also a bureaucratic side to the RCMP that is
utterly self-serving. We can be sure that either the politicians will lack
the guts to do the right thing, or they will use what dirt they have on the
RCMP to bend the system their way. Such is the politics of expediency! Let
us hope that the courts can set this one straight. No one else will.
m from vancouver, Canada writes: It's time
Canada had a PROFESSIONAL police force instead of those Dinasours who are
running it with their GRADE 10 education (the requirement 30 years ago)
Centrist from Canada writes: Another day,
another file botched by the Harper Conservative government.
Just another example in the litany of events and overt attitudes that they
display...You'd think (or maybe they think?) they were the KGB!
Iconoclast from Canada writes: Time to clean
house. The RCMP has become a national disgrace.
Ham from Outremont, Canada writes:
perhaps if the rcmp had not meddled in a national election and as a result
brought down the ruling government, it would not be in as much trouble with
the image makers as it is now experiencing.
rcmp bashing has become the favourite national pastime... from arar... to
air india... to the pensions... to this one particular case and so on...
even the 'new guvmint' is getting into this game.... leading one to suspect
that perhaps... just perhaps... the rcmp is on to some goods that could be
highly damaging to the 'new guvmint'. simply cuz the 'new guvmint' was made
possible by rcmp interference in the previous national election.
B from Sydney, NS, Canada writes: "The RCMP
has said it's illegal for anyone to tell the committee, or even Public
Safety Minister Stockwell Day, the full story"
What kind of a country do we live in, when our national police force can
shield criminals and withhold information a minister of the Crown? We need
to take a serious look at police powers and public accountability, and
reform the RCMP into an agency that puts ordinary, law-abiding citizens
Wilkie from Canada writes: Minister Day had
promised that a new commissioner would be appointed in June. Is he waiting
for the summer recess to make his announcement? Who are the candidates?
Adder from Toronto, Canada writes: And Harper
wants to give the police more say in selecting judges...
macmillan from Amherst,NS, Canada writes: I sure
hope that this body of evidence for changing the way the RCMP run their
operations really adds up to something. It is disappointing to read week
after week that the RCMP can't be trusted, don't act with the best interest
of the country or even there own rank and file. That the Commissioner steps
forward saying the RCMP have fine officer who can preform the duties of
leadership," they just don't haved to because no one can really make
them, once they become Commissioner." The RCMP is a powerful group and
reforming themselves is going to take power away from themselves, that not
going to happen. Cops become corrupt because it is what they are exposed to,
whether it is the criminal element or the blue line.
winters from Canada writes: does anyone inthe3
rcmp care that they have lost the confidence of the public? i see no
evidence that they care for the public inthe least. we appear to be the
enemy in their eyes.
they certainly have forgotten whom they work for.
Green from Defiant Island, Cuba writes: Such a
courageous lot, there, to serve and to protect!
toast from mill village, Canada writes: so this
is how harper's "tough on crime"strategy plays out,the mounties
have placed themselves above the law and beyond the reach of stocky
day.clearly,the hiring process precludes quality candidates from joining the
ranks.the mentality is more suitable for a hockey team than a national
police force.pity the frontline officers,most of whom must be embarrassed
N from Toronto, Canada writes: It is about time
to start serious talk about shutting down the RCMP and replacing it with a
more professional, accountable law enforcement agency. This time around we
must not make the same mistake we did when CSIS was created, namely - we
shouldn't staff it with former RCMP officers!
S. from Toronto, Canada writes: The RCMP is a
national disgrace. Can't we get through one single week without a RCMP
scandal? Why aren't heads rolling? Why aren't RCMP officers being charged
with crimes? Is Harpo asleed at the switch or is he complicit?
yn byw yma Canada from Canada writes: Obviously
if the relatives of the victim of this so-called "agent" learn of
his identity and the details of the crime they would sue the RCMP and its
commissioner. If I were commissioner I wouldn't want any information to leak
but as a citizen I believe that this matter must be cleared up and a neutral
body oversee the witness protecion program. Go for it Mr Comartin. There are
so many problems with the RCMP that we have to start with a clean slate. For
a start all recruiting should be in the hands of a civilian body.
Eizinas from Simcoe, Canada writes: .
What an unfortunate turn of events. Our beloved RCMP takes another hit. The
strength of the unit appears to also be its weakness. This was a tightly
knit, hard disciplined, secretly exclusive organization that prided itself
on its high standards and autonomy. There was little to no civilian
oversight. They "killed their own snakes".
The lid was screwed on tight and woe the individual who did not march
lock-step with the upper brass.
Well, the lid has popped off and a new snake seems to slither out every
It is obviously time for an upper echelon housecleaning, appointment of a
new Commissioner from outside and the establishment of an impartial civilian
Stop the bleeding.
, from Maritimes, Canada writes: Don't throw out
the baby with the dishwater. Things that fell into disrepair during the long
Liberal tenure are finally being cleaned up. The whole list of RCMP failings
didn't just happen during the past year of Conservative reign.
Hubert from Calgary, Canada writes: This con
artist turned murderer should never have been in the witness protection
program. In a number of critics I have read about the Canadian witness
protection prgram, the critics called the results extremely poor as nobody
believes the turncoat criminal on the stand, the judge in this case called
his evidence a cruel charade. One critc, whom I completely agree with,
called the reliance on these lying truncoats (usually semi-illiterate
ex-bikers ) the LAZYEST form of policing ever, whereby sometimes the worst
of the bunch are given immunity to pretend that their misdeeds were done by
others. Wintness protection should be for witnesses who did not participate
in crime, not scum bags, the laws should be changed.
Kennedy from Saint John, Canada writes: The
simple solution here is to try this fellow in open court. If he is guilty,
put him in jail. If he is innocent, give him a new fake identity. That is
the only real way to stop such abuse, which is the real way to ensure the
integrity of the witness protection program when you think about it. If that
is against the law, change the law. As it stands it makes me even more
curious about what sort of criminal activities the RCMP is involved in. What
the heck is going on in this country?
Kennedy from Saint John, Canada writes: Makes
you wonder how many sickos are protected in this country because they are
part of the establishment themselves, or know about other sickos that are
part of the establishment. Just how sick do crimes have to get before people
are willing to blow the doors wide open. It seems the sicker things get, the
tighter the doors are shut. This country has a long history of protecting
people that are part of the establishment. Why? What is it about the
establishment? Can you not join unless you are a sicko yourself, or is it
sufficient to be able to turn the other way?
D from Canada writes: Admittedly the
Conservatives aren't responsible for the tremendous slide in the character
of the RCMP but they are now charged with dealing with it. We need a
complete cleanup of this organization perhaps involving creating separate
layers of policing organizations who truly keep and eye on one another
rather than merely being members of the 'good ol' boys club' and keeping a
few RCMP to drag out for politician photo ops for the people around the
world who aren't aware of the decay. The Conservatives have already been
dubbed the most anti-business government since Trudeau, let's see what they
Thought from Calgary, Canada writes: Al , from
Maritimes, Canada writes: Don't throw out the baby with the dishwater.
Things that fell into disrepair during the long Liberal tenure are finally
being cleaned up. The whole list of RCMP failings didn't just happen during
the past year of Conservative reign.
I was waiting to see someone blame the Liberals. This has been going on
through ALL governments. Harper is not cleaning up anything. Look what he
made his his first priority when he was sworn in as PM - the RCMP and the
Military. What do dictators control? Perhaps the Libs were not far off when
they said Canadians may not like a Harper's Canada!!
zambo from Canada writes: Do you trust the RCMP?
It is alegged that the RCMP in Alberta blew up a shed in order to frame one
Mr. Wiebo Ludwig for something he did not do! They were caught red handed at
it. does anyone else think that we should get rid of that outfit lock,
stock, and barrel?
Bellows from Canada writes: Don't forget that
this is a ploy by the very highly paid defence team. Look at both sides and
let's not be too gullible here.
toast from mill village, Canada writes: let's
see both sides,whoops one side seems to be hidden.obscured,beyond the
law.but look help is on the way.is it a bird?sort of.is it a plane,not
really.it's..it's.. it's stocky day in a wetsuit riding a seadoo.
brett from Canada writes: Ok, This guy kills
someone... was he put on trial for murder? Was he convicted? If he was
tried, Is he in Jail now (but under his new name)? If so what is the big
Is it that some lawyer wants to sue and make some money! Not like a lawyer
to act in self interest, Just out there trying to do some good!
If the guy was in witness protection (meaning he has a new name and a new
place to live), how is it anyone's fault but his own if he commits murder?
Harper a raise and pay down the debt with the money saved on MP salaries
from Canada writes: Please google " Stephan Harper quotes .
The RCMP are rank amateurs at hiding in plain sight as compared to wonder
boy stevie .
Zarowsky from Toronto, Canada writes: Let's give
the RCMP and CSIS even more power, with significantly fewer restraints and
even less oversight than they aree currently subject to. There's a plan.
What we really need is a complete overhaul of the Witness Protection
Programme, and the same thing for the RCMP and CSIS. With proper and real
civillian oversight as well. This is just one more chapter in the joke that
is our security agencies. Note that CSIS was created under Clark and
Mulroney. The Air India fiasco happened on Mulroney's watch. Chretien did
his best to cover up the mess, and Martin was too busy with the Gomery
stuff. So now we have "tough on crime" Harper at the helm. Funny
how reluctant these criminal-hating CPCers and their supporters are to apply
the law to the police. Why is that? Or does the law only apply to certain
groups and classes? It never fails to amuse me - bleakly - to observe how
extremely selective the right wing is when it comes time to actually apply
and enforce the law.
Zarowsky from Toronto, Canada writes: @ john
brett: you just love those red herrings and obfuscation. Not to mention a
reflexively rabid attack on anyone who questions any aspect of police
performance, behaviour and attitude towards "civillians". Why is
that John? As has been noted in earlier articles related to this story,
Canada's Witness Protection Programme is essentially a black hole once a
"witness" gets into it. There is, effectively, no review or
oversight by any external, civillian authorities. What this case, in
particular, proves, is that the programme essentially provides a blank,
signed cheque to anyone in it. Now, most of the individuals in the programme
have actually held up their end of the deal. But not in this case. Witness
protection is a necessity. But not even the Bush administration has seen fit
to tamper with the safeguards in the US programme, that enable the
authorities to charge someone who commits a crime while under protection.
And the US programme has superior oversight. In stark contrast to ours. What
we have here is a truly monstrous failure by the RCMP. And now we are
getting a major CYA campaign. In some ways, this is far worse than the Ian
Bush and Kevin St. Arnaud incidents in BC. What is clearly indicated is a
desperate need for truly effective and strong civillian oversight and
control of all security agencies. Police have a difficult, dangerous and
nasty job to do. But, given the extraordinary powers and authority they are
given, external civilian control is an absolute requirement. Especially in
light of numerous and well-documented cases of police abuse of authority,
criminal behaviour and other, similar, problems. Or are you suggesting that
the police are above the law, and that there is no need to supervise police
performance and behaviour?
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